It has been a while since I have had an interview with an expat to share with you! I am excited today because I have here an interview with a fellow American living in Norway
His name is Chris, and has some great thoughts on living life in a foreign country as an expat. Enjoy!
1.Where are you from originally, where are you now and what brought you there?
The US. I live in Bergen, Norway. My wife, whom is Norwegian, and I had always wanted to move here. We like the social and cultural “climate” here and thought it would be a great place to raise our son (..it is). Also, I got a really good job offer about a year ago which was the main reason for us moving here much sooner than we expected..
2.What do you like/dislike about your new home overseas?
Likes: climate (believe it or not), natural beauty of this country is a huge plus, government (social democracy), more egalitarian than my country of origin, environmental awareness, reliance on public transportation, slower pace, less materialistic culture, not a lot of disparity between the wealthy and poor, public health care, strong cultural belief in taking care of others, …I could go on and on.
Dislikes: Not too many, actually. If you need a big house (2 or more big houses is a bonus), big car, need to drive everywhere (including down the block to the convenience store), cheap gas, big freeways everywhere, trash on the streets, ghettos in one neighborhood and “palaces” in the next, Wal-Mart and McDonalds, then you won’t like it here. Ok, really, the biggest dislike is the cost of living. This place is VERY expensive. You MUST live on less. There is certainly not the cultural diversity to be had in my country of origin. Things can be pretty plain and homogeneous here. Also, people are not as open and friendly in public (can be downright rude) although they are when you get to know them.
3.Do you have any advice for Americans who want to get a job or visa in Europe? What was your experience with getting a visa/job? Was it difficult?
Don’t have much advice regarding the first question because my situation was probably quite different than average. The job was advertised although it required someone with a special skill in my field (which I have). Because of my job, getting the visa went very smoothly. I had an employment contract 3 months before my family moved here. I submitted the contract to the authorities (the police, I believe) and had a work visa within a few weeks.
4.What was the most challenging part of being an American living in a foreign country whey you first started out as an expat? Do you have any advice for those facing similar challenges?
By far, the most challenging part is not knowing the language. Even though English is the 2nd language in Norway – Norwegians speak their own language at home and most everywhere else. You can easily get by on English here but you will also feel isolated after a certain period of time. My advice, learn the language if you are going to be in a country for several years or more.
5.If you were to do it all again (moving to and living in another country), what would you do different?
It is very stressful to make an international move. I would have taken more time. We moved within 2 months after accepting the job offer. Also, our son was an infant at that time – very stressful period. Had we taken 6 to 9 months to make the move then it would have been better.
6.Do you want to move back to the states? If not, what is it about the expat life that makes it all worth it to you?
Sometimes I want to go back to the states but when I really think long and hard about it – I don’t. Yes, I get homesick for all of the things “American”. I guess it is especially family and friends that I miss most. Although, it is probably better for my mental and physical health here (see question 2 above).
7.What are some of the good, the bad, the ugly…and the funny things you have experienced as an American living overseas?
Ahh, for the good, see the second question. Again, I can’t tell you how beautiful it is here. Honestly, I have never been to a more beautiful place although note that I haven’t been to a zillion countries in this world (traveled a good bit around the US, very little in Canada, Bahamas, Greece, England, Scotland, Wales, Israel). Norwegians are VERY proud of the natural beauty here and they do a great job of keeping it that way. The public would never accept, for example, a strip mining operation as you see in the Appalachians and several western states in the US.
The bad and ugly – again, hard pressed on this but, again, I come back to the cost of living – knowing that public services/goods would greatly decline due to reduced taxation of goods/services. So, I can live with the cost of living.
Funny things – a number of “gaffes” because I don’t know the language and culture and most of my email messages don’t get read because they are in Norwegian. Also, there are cultural differences, especially in academia, that I am totally unaware of. I recently showed up to a student’s dissertation defense 45 minutes late because of the language problem. I was unaware that I was late, though, because I mis-read the announcement (it was in Norwegian). The door to the auditorium (where it was being held) was locked. I found this quite odd. I gently knocked 3 times. Finally, the door opened by, none other than, the student who was right in the middle of the defense. I came in the room and my colleagues, all sitting there dressed up (I also did not know that you were supposed to get so “dressed up”) “glared” at me. Actually, they were probably surprised (…”that American idiot” – ok, I’m just kidding) but I felt about 1 centimeter (oops, half an inch) high. At the end of the defense we all qeued up to shake the student’s hand, much like you would at a wedding reception – congratulating the bride and groom. When it was my turn to shake hands, I sincerely apologized and the student told me that “rock stars are always late”. Actually, it was a friendly reply as we have a good working relationship and a similar interest in music. I just felt way too embarrassed because I am unfamiliar with some of the customs here.
8.Any practical tips for the new expats out there (like me)?
If you are an American, make sure you respect the values, culture, etc., of the country you are visiting/living in. Even if you believe America is the greatest country in the world (something I’ve been told since the beginning – I don’t believe it), don’t give anyone a reason to believe you think this way. America does not look so good abroad right now. Don’t add fuel to that flame. I don’t have a problem here although I could easily pass for a Norwegian on the streets unless I am required to speak. When I do speak (e.g., if in a grocery store) I can easily get by on what little Norwegian I know. Norwegians really respect you if you try (again, they won’t see you as arrogant). Also, it helps to be just a little demure and shy in public. You will get “tagged” real quick if you are boisterous and gregarious (Americans are not so bad at that).
9.Where do you think you’ll go next?
Honestly, I may very well be here for the rest of my life but, who knows…
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8 responses so far ↓
1 RennyBA // Feb 16, 2008 at 10:07 pm
What an interesting interview – it’s obvious that Chris is reflected and have cultural awareness!
You shouldn’t move to another country if you don’t know what you are doing, but Chris really have got the hang of it.
I really like the answer from your question about likes/dislikes: He hit the nail on the head about Norway.
Wishing you a great weekend
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2 Lao // Feb 18, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Even if you believe America is the greatest country in the world (something I’ve been told since the beginning – I don’t believe it)
Cultural relativism?
A word of advise, that kind of self-deprecating attitude ain’t going to carry you too far.
Lao
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3 Lars Andreas van Woensel Kooy Tveiten // Feb 19, 2008 at 1:40 pm
To Lao above me^
Hmm, wonder why the world hates you people…
4 Lao // Feb 23, 2008 at 6:10 pm
No. I never wonder, and sorry to say this, but “being liked” is not what I strive for in life.
Often times it is Americans themselves who either purposely or inadvertently, give rise to the animosity we experience around the world. Americans who are hopelessly consumed with what Pope Benedict has described as a “pathological self-hatred” and who fail to recognize the veracity in the adage that ‘you can’t expect someone else to love you until you learn to love yourself.’
Leadership is not simply doing what is popular or what will get you liked, it is doing what is right, and often times doing what is right is not the popular thing to do.
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5 pissing high // Nov 28, 2008 at 11:06 am
get real, “Norwegians are proud of their nature”, because there is nothing else there, and they didn’t create the nature, they just happened to live there, Norway is part of the planet earth not vice versa
6 WILLIAM // Mar 5, 2009 at 3:27 pm
wow great interview since I’m American too from (California) I could relate to his experiences right now I’m in Oslo and happy to be here. But the culture is different than back in So Cal but I love the culture here and a big fan of the music scene here Black Metal and always wanted to be here since the 90′s , but its funny because alot of the people I met here like scene in the U.S. ? and they tell me they want to go to Sunset Strip ,Roxy and the Whiskey A GoGo,so its fun to see what people find intersting in different cultures and I do miss the Rainbow bar and grill on Sunset great food and drinks.
7 Kyrsten // Jun 17, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Hello, fellow American! Being new in Norway is a sweet time of having others think your innocent and cute way of using english combined with norwegian language is attractively fun for the Norwegian people. I only wish I were still living in that fresh and fun time still, but now it’s been too many years that I’ve been living in Norway and my norwegian skills are too good for my own good. Now, even though it would be refreshing, there is no way anyone would allow for me to slip into English language when I speak. Yes, it’s difficult to have the vocabulary skills of a 10 year-old and the job resposibilities of a 35 year-old. I keep telling myself that I have to expand my vocabulary, but it’s hard to remember new words anymore. The biggest problem with communication is when people don’t understand you and you have not finished explaining yourself before they’ve switched into talkingand you are cut off. Also, they think that the problem is that you don’t understand them, but the real problem is that they don’t understand you and they don’t realize it at all. I mean, think about it. Is a person speaking with totally correct pronounciation, correct grammer and highly developed vocabulary skills easier or more difficult to understand than a person who is bad at all of those things?? I understand people completely perfectly well, I would say about at the exact same level of understanding that Norwegians have of other Norwegians, but what comes out of my mouth to show that can sound like I don’t understand a thing. I know, it’s weird. It sometimes makes me want to move out of this country and back to the States because I can’t stand the limitations my life has now. Language was always my greatest forte, and now my talent has been deminished. But I have two children and have taken over a sheep farm, so that’s life for me.
8 Audrey // Nov 26, 2011 at 4:52 pm
I am American born with Norwegian parents. I have been to Norway many times and find it just as Chris described. Nothing to complain about except for a few minor inconveniences and the prices. I know the language fluently so am very fortunate in that respect. I have only found a few “ignorant” people who have treated me like an arrogant American, but I’m sure they have run across some arrogant Americans in their travels.
Interestingly, I have found that growing up with Norwegian parents has laid the foundation in my life for most Norwegian traditions that I didn’t realize were Norwegian until I took some college Norwegian classes. So, I feel I have the best of both worlds. Great article and great insights into one of the most beautiful countries in the world!
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